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Mar 20, 2020

Pa. Property Tax Reform: For Real This Time?

By Peter N. Calcara, vice president – government relations


The Pennsylvania General Assembly wants to address the longstanding issue of property tax reform. This is not a recording.

Most public policy issues get addressed in some form or fashion, while others never seem to get resolved. A few (very few) meander from legislative session to session, never successfully, or even inadequately, addressed. School district consolidation is one of these issues. How many times have you heard someone say we have too many school districts in Pennsylvania (500)? State oversight of hard alcohol is another. Changes have been made to the manner in which Pennsylvanians can purchase beer and wine, but the state still has a firm grip on liquor stores and the sales process through the Liquor Control Board. The granddaddy of them all, though, is school property tax reform.

Pennsylvania Capitol in Harrisburg The issue predates my time in Harrisburg. In fact, I was a Senate staffer when Gov. Bob Casey’s local tax reform plan was approved by the General Assembly just before the clock wound down on the 1988 session. Voters ultimately rejected the plan in 1989, and the issue has lived on in the ether of legislative issues ever since. It has swung from being a front-burner issue to one that is sporadically talked about by a handful of legislators and interest groups. It seems to rise to the top of the issues heap in election years as one that many legislators campaign on (but soon forget).

In January 2020, Sen. Joseph Scarnati (R-Jefferson), the highest-ranking member in the chamber, breathed new life into the issue of school property tax reform. In his acceptance comments as president pro tempore of the Senate, Scarnati told the chamber that he would like to see the Senate take up property tax reform. He did not endorse any one plan, but acknowledged that tackling the issue would not be easy and would require “tough votes” from lawmakers.

So, where are we now?

Legislators do have a good running start at, perhaps once and for all, addressing the issue. You may be surprised to learn that a bipartisan, bicameral workgroup of legislators has been meeting since last August to review the issue of school property taxes. The group’s goal is to seek a consensus that could garner the necessary 102 votes in the state House, 26 votes in the state Senate, and the signature of the governor. The workgroup came up with five plans (summarized below) to provide significant school district property tax relief. Note that the word used was “relief” and not “elimination.” Some lawmakers and a fringe group of outside stakeholders still dream of the total elimination of school property taxes (a $14 billion to $15 billion proposition), the votes for which simply are not there. The pie-in-sky notion that Pennsylvania can eliminate a major source of funding for public education and not have it impact other programs and services is misguided and fiscally dubious.

Here are thumbnail summaries of the five proposals advanced by the workgroup:

  1. Reduce school property taxes by $8.62 billion, increase the personal income tax from 3.07% to 4.07%, and raise the sales tax from 6% to 7% to provide money for homestead exclusions. School districts would have to levy a local earned income of at least 1%. The Property Tax and Rent Rebate Program would be expanded.
  2. Cut school property taxes by $6.44 billion through an increase in the personal income tax from 3.07% to 4.62%.
  3. Raise the personal income tax from 3.07% to 4.32% and cap the rebates for homestead properties at $2,340, effectively eliminating school property taxes for more than 2 million homeowners.
  4. Boost the personal income tax from 3.07% to 4.72% and cap the homestead rebate at $5,000, effectively eliminating school property taxes for more than 3.1 million homeowners.
  5. Effect an $8.5 billion elimination in homestead school property taxes by raising the personal income tax from 3.07% to 4.82% and the sales tax from 6% to 7%.

State budget hearings have concluded, and the General Assembly is supposed to be in session the next few weeks, but of course all that may change. With the coronavirus pandemic wreaking havoc on everything, it’s really anyone’s guess what happens with these proposals. However, once we return to normal, don’t be surprised to hear more talk coming out of Harrisburg about property tax reform.

The PICPA will have a major voice when the process begins to unfold. The local tax workgroup of our State Tax Committee will be fully engaged, offering different ideas, reviewing legislative language, and working with legislators.

Maybe, after nearly four decades of chasing the school property tax reform specter, it will finally materialize in Pennsylvania. After all, it is an election year.


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  • Violet Ferguson | Jan 21, 2021
    Hello, I' am desperately trying to move back to my home state.  I 'am a Lower Dauphin Graduate ( Alumni).  I moved to Florida about 32 years ago. I retired from my job and was searching to move back to my home state ( Pennsylvania, Dauphin County).  I have been searching for a regular not expensive home since I am on a fixed budget.  Every home my realtor showed me the property taxes I can't afford.  I would love to be back home with my family to live out the rest of my so called golden years.  I do not have any children, mother, father or biological siblings.  I do have cousins that I would love to reconnect with but I don't think this is possible because of the property taxes being so high. My prayers are hopefully I will be able to come back home to live out the rest of my life where I call Dauphin County my home and final resting place.   
  • Joel Moyer | Jan 15, 2021
    Property taxes must be eliminated! They need to be replaced by a sales tax. Property taxes hurt so many people especially the poorer inner city kids. Make it a state tax (sales) and fund schools equitably out of that instead of doing it regionally (by school district) to give the inner city kids a fighting chance. Protect retired people from being forced out of their homes. 
  • Andre | Jan 05, 2021
    How about plan 6.  Eliminate both the personal income tax and the sales tax.  Reduce taxes by half on cigarettes and gasoline.  Trim the fat from the government payrolls.  No one who isn't a first responder can make more than 30K, no cell phone bills paid, no per diem, etc.  You want to serve the people, do it, don't expect to be a millionaire.
  • Andre | Jan 05, 2021
    How about plan six.  Cut the Pennsylvania fat, eliminate the property tax and personal income tax.  No one with a government salary can make over 35,000 per year, no per diem, no cell phone bills paid, no frills unless they are deemed a first responder.
  • Jared | Jan 03, 2021
    So many of us simply can't afford to pay these ridiculous tax bills its simply not fair. Many of us havent had kids in school for a very long time. Let those that do pay the bulk and then increase sales and income taxes for the reminder. Just because we "own" property doesn't mean we are wealthy enough to oay for everyone else's kids education. Not fair 😠
  • janet brown ( Jones) | Dec 28, 2020

    I live in Southern county, I am on a fixed income and can no longer pay these ridiculous dallastown school taxes

    I own my home but Im forced to sell and move out of state within the next 6 months.

    Dallastown School district are no longer giving out rebates for some reason.

    There has to be another way. taxes on clothing for one. Why are homeowners the ones paying this? shouldn"t all residents have to pay their share?

     

  • Janet Brown (Jones) | Dec 28, 2020

    I live in Southern York County. I pay Dallastown School taxes, which I was notified that they are no longer giving out rebates. I will have to move out of state. I own my home and cannot pay these taxes on a fixed income.

     

    These taxes have forced me out, hopefully within the next 6 months

    It is unfair that homeowners are the ones that are burdened with this. 

    All residents should do their part. taxing clothing would help, since I live close to the Maryland line. I always see these people buying clothes here for the absolute reason of no tax on them.

    I would like to know why Dallastown will not get out rebates anymore?? Not that the 300 dollars makes a difference but in my situation anything at this point helps

     

  • Chris | Dec 06, 2020

    Property taxes means we do not own property. The founding fathers would have started another militia over this. I will not retire in pennsylvania. When your insurance and tax cost more than the mortgage its time to pack it in. Maybe we can start taxing cars and air. Rain water......ohhh wait.

  • Smith | Dec 04, 2020
    TAXES ARE THEFT, PERIOD.... ALL TAXES!!!
  • Janis Long | Nov 27, 2020
    I have in my 70's, have no children and living on social security.  I appreciate that the schools need support but I believe there are other means to provide that financial support.
  • Joel Moyer | Nov 24, 2020
    A state sales tax and income tax would alleviate the horrible issues of the poorer inner city school districts by hopefully evening out the monies available for the school districts. Current property taxes are so stupid and unfair forcing many older  retired people out of their homes. Come on folks, do the right thing!!!
  • Joel Moyer | Nov 24, 2020
    One of the benefits of removing property taxes from the local governments and putting an income tax and sales tax means at least some of the funding would be coming from the state and perhaps that would equalize more money to poorer schools (read inner city) and get rid of or alleviate the horrible conditions some of these poor communities suffer from in their schools. 
  • vkm | Nov 09, 2020

    Hello please somebody do something about these horribly unfair property taxes older couples and seniors are losing everything.

    School taxes are so unfair, rental apartments, townhouses and condos bring in so many children to an area that schools have to keep being enlarged or new schools are built. Oddly enough the children aren't even in school. While the owner of those rental units pays very little for a property that might have 12 apartment units in it compared to what every home owner has to pay. We all love and adore children, but enough is enough. MAKE IT FAIR! I say raise the personal tax to a fair level and also raise state tax to 8%. Make in fair for a change that way all adults, renters or not will all pay equally.

    if this keeps up we would all be smart to start renting.

  • Susan | Oct 31, 2020

    I am 70 years old, no children, no grand children. I try to live on my Social Security, but I am not having a good life because I have to worry about paying my Bethlehem Area School District taxes every year. What I have to do to pay my taxes is budget more than a third of my SS every year. There are no frills, no vacations, no fine dining, and I drive a 16 year old car that I hope will hold out because I know that I will never be able to afford another car. I allow myself $5.00 a day for food, $30.00 a month for gas. There is not one day that goes by that paying my school district taxes is not on my mind, to the actual point of ending my miserable life because of them. Enough is enough! I just can't take it anymore. I am facing the possibility, as many others are, of losing my home because of this. We childless seniors have paid our share. Please, somebody, anybody, help us. Eliminate the school district taxes for seniors! 

  • Debbie Hindman | Oct 04, 2020
    I am retiring in two years and facing the probability of having to sell my home because the added school tax makes my mortgage un-affordable. I am also looking at relocating to Delaware where I can afford decent, safe and sanitary housing without the school tax putting me in potential foreclosure. The system is antiquated with unheard of waste. I have two grandchildren in Pa public schools and have to wonder where the bang for the buck is. With the COVID pandemic wiping out the coffers of many state governments, my assumption is that our taxes will increase rater than be reduced. I will surely have to make the life changing decision to move to state where I can afford to ive.
  • Deborah Lee Perry | Sep 26, 2020

    They raised the water, garbage, and sewage bills this year.  And they also raised the city, county, and school taxes when is enough going to be enough.  

    Homes need repairs and it costs a fortune to get the work done when you cannot do it yourself as a senior citizens.  We NEED HELP NOW NOT NEXT YEAR.

    Dishonest people are committing fraud on unemployment insurance and we cannot get a break they did not even extend the school tax and they are teaching them online.

     

  • Ed B | Sep 23, 2020
    I thought when the casinos came, they were going to help with the home and school tax!  what happened?  
  • William Fischer | Sep 21, 2020
    I have lived in PA all my life. I was fortunate enough to buy a home in 2000. At that time, I thought the taxes were some what fair in Qualertown. Since then for about 10 years I've been calling my State Rep and State Senator at the beginning of every July to complain. I'm sick and tired the the cost I have to pay every year like the rest of the people have stated. It's been long over due and something has to change. Maybe we have to all raise up and for once they work for us!!!
  • John H. | Sep 14, 2020

    School tax reform NOW! It's long overdue. Everyone in PA can contribute to this burden through a sales tax increase, including the "children" who are frivolously spending on iPhones and other luxuries I can't afford as a 47 year-old male who has worked full-time for most of my adult life. I'm a single homeowner with no children and will never had any, yet I must pay (based on my property value) the same as a two-income household with a comparably-valued property. Married couples already get tax breaks, and those with children get credits for dependents that single people also do not get.

    I have a roof that needs repaired, septic that needs updated, and a laundry list of other home issues that are failing, yet I must write a check for $3,000 each year to Dallastown School District. It is not right that my earned money, besides payroll taxes that have already been withheld, must then also be handed over to the "state" for these schools.

    EVERYONE MUST SHARE THE LOAD. Who thinks about sales tax when making a wanted purchase for something as simple as groceries or some new patio furniture? Not many people; they simply buy! Just think, all of those kids in school could be contributing to the cause with their own purchases if sales taxes were allocated properly. Those of us with NO KIDS or who are on fixed incomes should not be contributing the way we currently are. It's a totally unfair system, and it's time to even the score. 

    What happens if WE do not pay these school tax bills? "They'll" come after us!  But teachers can strike for more pay increases and benefits, while eliminating the teaching of history and introducing liberal/partisan propaganda that is destroying this country. I should not have to fund the destruction of America! I get no say in what is being taught to these children but must pay regardless. This is a corrupt system. Pennsylvania needs to get their act together! Stop overtaxing the hard-working middle class who struggle to make ends meet but never qualify for any government aid. Great job, Tom Wolf! You need to go!

  • Gary | Sep 04, 2020
    ONE THING THAT THIS PANDEMIC HAS SHOWN IS THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE THE SCHOOLS Are not really necessary. The schools should go cyber and the teachers should be virtual and there should be testing sites where the student would be tested before going on to the next level and for those that don't have computers they can take their children to the local library to  use the computer and the school buildings should be sold to pay off the horrendous amount of money that the idiots had drummed up. This would keep the students apart and help stop the pandemic This would be a way to eliminate the outrageous school tax. It has been proven that you have 20 to 25 students in a class and one would be coughing with a runny nose and suddenly all the students are sick with the flu. Now there is a much deadlier virus out there so it is time to rethink things and do what is necessary. It would be better for the children and relieve the constant burden of the school taxes.
  • Jerry | Aug 31, 2020
    Why can't we at least cap the school tax for people when they turn 62 or 65 because essentially their incomes are capped. That's something that could be done until when or if ever this tax problem gets addressed
  • Andrew Connors | Aug 29, 2020
    Middle class retired citizens not being able to afford to stay in their own homes is a tragic reality.  Property tax reform needs to be urgently addressed. 
  • Wayne | Aug 26, 2020

    Peter N. Calcara said, "a fringe group of outside stakeholders still dream of the total elimination of school property taxes".

    Here I am, an "outside stakeholder", and I thought I was just some schmuck worried about retaining my home...

    This isn't the middle ages or an agricultural society where land ownership was a guarantee of income. In other words a head of household isn't the equivalent of "Lord of the Manor". Home ownership doesn't generate a thin dime for most of us. It's a responsibility that requires upkeep, repair, utilities, heating, and more.

    Owning a home simply means that at one time during your life you scrimped and saved to make a down payment and then faithfully paid off the mortgage. Oh, and paid tax on the purchase. If you were fortunate enough to have your health and job status remain stable you became a home owner. But as we age our health and job-loss risk rises. And yet we must continue to pay the "forever rent" on something that drains our money already in upkeep, etc.

    An income tax is levied where the money is generated - where the money is.
    A sales tax is levied where the money is spent - again, where the money is.

    Property tax is simply a yearly bill - it's not dependent on there being any money there.
    You can be unemployed, pensionless, and barely have enough money to spend on food. But it doesn't matter because it's just a yearly bill based on something you purchased and paid a tax on years ago.

    Reduction and rebates have never worked. They pass, lawmakers crow that they did something, then the tax rate eventually rises and gobbles up whatever relief there was.

    The property tax is the most unfair regressive tax. It destroys the dream of home ownership for young people and home retention in retirement.

    Why not eliminate? Despite your characterization of it being fringe it did come very close to passing in the PA senate years ago. It is an abomination, a relic of the middle ages.

    Sincerely yours,

    "Outside stakeholder" (lived in PA my entire life)

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

  • Sis G | Aug 21, 2020
    No one should have to pay school taxes if they have no kids of school age. Maybe once upon a time this was needed. We pay over 6k a year in school taxes, which is obsurd!! Middletown has one of the largest mils for this. Stop stealing our money!!! 
  • V Emilio | Aug 19, 2020

    my husband and i are relocating to PA to enjoy our retirement. Im sure u can imagine our surprise when we were told how much we would be paying in taxes!!! 

    we are coming from NY which is a very expensive state to reside in, however, it at least gives its seniors a 50% discount on their property tax bc they realize most if us live on a fixed income, and we dont have kids in school.  

    i hope you people can come to some agreement to help the seniors live a more comfortable life. Afterall, i think we earned it!! 

  • Linda S Miller | Aug 16, 2020
    I am a 79 yr old single senior citizen and I pay 2200.00 on property taxes and 5500.00 on school taxes. I have lived here for 20 yrs and think school taxes are outrageous for seniors. Why are seniors paying for everyone else's children. I have never had a child go to any schools in pa. I can hardly pay bills each month,due to the high school. Give us a break for God Sake. 65 yrs and older should not have to pay for school taxes! 
  • Tracie | Aug 12, 2020
    So our school taxes are $1200 and our property taxes are $972. How the heck are we supposed to afford that? Our children are out of school so I dont think we should have to pay school taxes. Not only that but with this Covid they haven't even been to school. We can not afford to pay these high taxes.
  • Vicki | Aug 11, 2020
    School taxes are so unfair, rental apartments, townhouses and condos bring in so many children to an area that schools keep having to be enlarged. While the owner of those rental units pays very little compared to what every home owner has to pay. I say raise the personal tax to a fair level and also raise state tax to 8%. Make in fair for a change that way renters pay more in taxed and they should.VM
  • Marc | Aug 09, 2020
    It should be against the law for any government to be able to steal some one home over property taxes There are no true homeownership in Pennsylvania over this property tax that goes to the school boards they don’t care if you lose your own because when they take your home and sell it they’re going to get the taxs and then when the home gets sold again they even more taxes Over the resale so it’s a win-win for them 
  • Nik | Aug 06, 2020

    Just some questions for thought...

    1) On what other item that you purchase, are you expected to pay taxes each and every year? 

    2) If business can conduct commerce on line, why do we need brick and mortar technology to educate our students?

    3) If you can get a college degree on line (in some cases a Master's) why do we have to transport students to buildings which are deteriorating to get a high school diploma?

    4) Why are these people who we elect-who are suppose to work FOR us, empowered to take away a home which we legally purchased?

    5) In any occupation, if we fail to perform to our employers expectations, we are dismissed....I suggest it is time to dismiss these people from office-who work for us-whom ignore the will of we the people.

    6) Besides being immoral, how is it not elder abuse to evict a senior whom cannot afford to pay taxes from his / her home?

    One cannot give away, what one does not have!

    Wake up people, you are losing more and more of your precious freedoms each day.

    I believe it was Edmund Burke who stated, All that is necessary for evil to exist, is for good men to do nothing.

    WAKE UP!

  • Tom A | Jul 20, 2020
    3 things... everyone who lives in pa should contribute to education funding not just home owners... totally wrong 2) school boards should never have financial authority... to decide to raise taxes on home owners... 3) all budget requests and expenditures must be audited and reviewed by a totally independent citizen sponsored group... sooooo much money is wasted and misspent... for many years i worked in the information technology department for an extremely large school district... you would never believe how much wasted money i witnessed being literally wasted... there is a tremendous amount of waste and the money needs to be managed correctly... very poor oversight... i guarantee EVERY school budget can be dramatically cut while our education quality would dramatically improve if things had proper oversight... the whole pa tax system and education system is a total disgrace... such a pity the people who are responsible for this pathetic and unfair environment... how do they sleep at night??? They have no conscience 
  • Hicks | Jul 12, 2020
    All goverment officials are voted to work for us citizens who pay your food and shelter! You are stealing our property and houses due to taxes! Its OUR house and are creating a crime called property theft! We demand school and property taxes off our homes and business NOW!! You have no right to rob or deny what we have been asking for years as well as inheritance tax!! I want mine back! I paid taxes on that money already !! Thefts in pa goverment and racketeering !!! We should be able to firer all of you who lied at the voting block! 
  • Joseph Schuler | Jul 12, 2020

      

    School Property Taxes - how in our form of Government do we allow the School board to dictate to the populace?

      It is said you can attend the meetings to voice your opinion and the end result is 'they say next' when you are done with no action on your voice - meaning IF the majority of citizens/voters say they oppose an policy it is ignored. And WE/you take it!

      Any and all needs for funds must be from an vote of the majority of the citizens.

     SB 76 seems to have disappeared. David Baldinger what happened to him? His 'partner' Rodkey [name correct?] is now with Sen. Frank Ryan whom is backing HB 13.

       Clearly - School funds need to be examined by an accountant to assure their is no misdeeds.

    School board individuals/supporters ... I can not help but feel IF you represent Education, Teachers, the Students, one would want to believe YOU are intelligent. Clearly with what is going on: Sub par students for decades; acting in self interest which appears to resemble an Dictatorship or Tyranny. How is it possible these people go through their lives not caring people are having their homes seized - because of them and   they   do not care.

      Should HB 13 get passed: You know what will happen.

    1 -  The School board will say - an Year has gone by and we have other needs - so the PIT will need to be raised and also the Sales Tax oh and since we are at it we still would like another Billion or two so since we already have raised the other taxes we need to re-establish an Property tax.

    2 - Here comes the Real Estate Property tax supervisors - and they will raise Property Taxes. After all you received tax relief now you can afford to give us our share since we have had many items grow on our wish list and it is time to make them happen. Many of our Political representatives are supposed to be like the proverbial Maytag man waiting for the phone to ring saying 'You are needed".  You are not supposed to be so pro active in our communities. All we want to hear from you is at the community or county fair. How did we let them believe WE ACTUALLY NEED THEM?!

      I, for one, have grown to abhor School officials with their self importance. 

    Wish everyone good luck.

    As long as there are people whom believe they have such power to affect our lives so badly, coldly we will lose this great Country of ours. Just recently America was able to view in living color how 'well' our educated Young people feel about our Country, your rights, your right to have an nice home, how they despise you for having more than them disregarding your years of commitment to the workplace - real indicators our School system is an absolute failure.

       Those few people were very successful in intimidating our Officials. Made decent hard working citizens feel like fools for believing you have to work for what you want - mocking the American dream. Had we lost WWII - how many types of people would have been exterminated ? And now our children have no respect for the freedom others gave their lives for  to allow them to express themselves - though in an most objectionable and primitive manner.

      IF THEY were rioting against unfair taxation I would have joined them.     

       

     

     

  • Lisa P. Rouse | Jul 08, 2020
    ARE WE FACING A DISASTER??? *UNFORTUNATELY, THE PANDEMIC (COVID-19) IS NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON, AND I'M NOT SO SURE IF PENNSYLVANIA (SCHOOL) PROPERTY TAXES ARE EITHER! WE'RE LIVING IN HORRIFIC TIMES, AND IT VERY HEARTBREAKING THAT SENIORS / HOMEOWNERS (WHO HAVE WORKED MOST OF THEIR LIVES) ARE NOT ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR GOLDEN YEARS, OR ANY YEARS FOR THAT MATTER!!! ESPECIALLY NOW! LET'S BE HONEST, HOW CAN THEY? (THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES, DUE TO THE VERY EXPENSIVE PENNSYLVANIA SCHOOL TAXES!) BUT EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, TALK (FOR OVER A DECADE) ABOUT "DOING AWAY WITH SCHOOL PROPERTY TAXES" SEEMED TO GIVE HOPE TO MANY. BUT LOOK WHERE WE ARE TODAY! AS GENERATIONS ARE PASSING AWAY (ESPECIALLY NOW... EVEN SOONER THAN ANYONE EVER EXPECTED). LET'S BE HONEST, WHAT ARE THE POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVES OF PENNSYLVANIA GOING TO DO? SURELY, THIS IS A TIME WHEN THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE VERY (WEARY) SENIORS, AS WELL AS HOMEOWNERS; IF NOTHING IS DONE, SOON!!! AND I MEAN SOON!!! WHO CAN WAIT ANOTHER YEAR? NOBODY!!! IF MAJOR RETAILERS ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS (DUE TO THE PANDEMIC), WHERE DOES THAT PUT HOMEOWNERS??? PERHAPS, BEING HOMELESS ISN'T A BIG ENOUGH ISSUE TO MAKE A CHANGE. BUT IT OUGHT TO BE!!! AND WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO KNOW NOTHING OUR LEGISLATOR... MAKING PROPER DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AS WELL AS THEIR FUTURE!!! 
  • Nadine Hensley | Jul 08, 2020

    Going to an income tax type of funding would be the fairest system.  Sales tax are less progressive, I am not for increasing it.  That we have children in the schools or not, we all benefit from a quality education for the children who will be one day supporting us and bringing value to the overall economy.  

    Teachers are so valuable, they do a terrific job.  When you consider the extra work they do behind the scene and beyond the in-school instructions, I wish that the public in general would recognize it. 

    I would like to be more involved on this issue, any suggestions?

  • chris | Jul 07, 2020
    how did property /school taxes go up when kids were home since march, that means all those resources that weren't used so how did they go up? where in the world do you pay for an item, like a soda or a car, then pay more money at the end of the years for them???? property taxes are the biggest scam known to man to screw over the working class
  • Vince | Jul 04, 2020
    The Current real estate tax system is INSANE!  People, especially the seniors, are losing their bought and paid for homes to the tax man each and every day and not only is there no end in sight to this madness and theft by our own government it is actually getting worse.  My taxes have gone up each and every year I have owned my home.  Teachers get pay raises and benfits increases every year when the entire rest of the economy has been flat for many years and they work 9 months of the year at that.  What, however, is the worst aspect of our current system is all of these individual school district kingdoms where the perpetual goal is to be able to say ours is better than theirs!!?  What?  Each and every child should receive the exact same quality and quantity of education and extra services as every other child in PA.  In Radnor they famously spend more than $24K on each student per year while in Chester they spend around half that per student.  Ninety per cent at least of the students in Radnor are white while the opposite is true in Chester where the overwhelming majority of its students are minorities so if you really want to reap  the so called benefits of the notion that public education for everyone generally better our society as a whole ( a notion with which I agree) why don't you at least acknowledge the blatant racism that exists in our current system and seek to address that.  There should be one school district and that should be the state district.  Every local district should be closed, teahhcers hsould be rotated from location to  location so no one location has the "better" teachers and if the teachhers don't like it tell them to quit.  I guarantee that there will be a hundred applicants lined up to replace them.  I have worked every day since I was 16 years old and with a recent reassessment and these illegal, unconstitutional, criminal property taxes I am never going to be able to remain in the house which I built and which I intended to leave to my son.  Any increase in either sales or income taxes is better than blindly taxing a peice of property which is, by definition, a cost not an income producer.  Where was it decided that it was fair to tax more based on the property's value?  Just because a property is high in value that says nothing about the homeowner's ability to pay these outrageous taxes.  At least if I decide to buy a new TV or a case of beer I have intentionally made the informed decision that I have the money to afford that purchase.  I don't want to hear this nonsense that increasing sales or income taxes is "regressive".  What's regressive is me having to live in a tent somewhere because I have lost my home to these out of control taxes!  Oh, never mind, I won't be living in a tent because I won't be able to afford the taxes on the vacant lot. 
  • Wallace | Jul 01, 2020

    I understand why we all have to pay taxes: we all reap the benefit of an educated workforce. 

    What no one seems to have suggested is to change the PA Constitution, so that a graduated income tax can be implemented.  A family needs a certain amount to live on, for food, clothing, shelter... but also for transportation, insurances, even internet access (especially important if you're stuck at home and education is being provided online).  People who make barely enough to pay for the necessities will find an increase to the income tax especially difficult, and PA is already considered to be a regressive tax state, because the tax structure falls especially heavily on lower income families.  None of the recommendations improves this situation, in fact, they may make it worse.

    As for "doing what other states do"... as far as I can tell, the only state with no school property tax is West Virginia - not exactly the education system to emulate.  The other "district" to have no school property tax is Washington DC... again, not a example for long-term success of the citizens.

    You get what you pay for.  Our elected officials need to stop thinking there's an easy fix for this and do some hard work for a change. 

    And while they're at it, they should pass legislation that disallows legislators from leaving office and immediately going to work as highly paid lobbyists.  (Maybe it's time to call them what they are - business whores!)

     

  • Dave | Jun 29, 2020
    PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE NOW IS THE TIME WE NEED THIS PROPERTY TAX REFORM, WITH ALL THE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK DUE TO THE EPIDEMIC. SOMETHING HAS TO BEEN DONE, RETIRED PEOPLE THAT HAVE PAID TAXES ALL THERE LIVES HAVE TO EITHER DOWN SIZE OR SELL THERE HOMES, ITS JUST NOT FAIR!!!!!
  • Mary | Jun 25, 2020

    PA citizens demand elimination ONLY. We do NOT support just a reduction. We should not have to pay perpetual rent (property taxes) for property we buy. We already taxes when property is transferred.

    Education would be more egalitarian if school districts received proportional funding instead of creating segregated districts based on property values.

  • Carol | Jun 25, 2020
    I am a senior, age 65, no dependent children, and renting in Bethlehem Township. Bethlehem Area School District sent me a 2019 school tax bill. I questioned this as I am receiving social security and a federal pension which PA exempts from taxes. The woman I spoke with in 2019 said the homeowners complained that renters don't pay a school tax and it wasn't fair so the school board started taxing renters. She suggested I attend board meetings to complain. I paid the 2019 bill. Two days ago, I received a delinquent bill for 2018 for which I was never billed and I am awaiting an answer regarding the 2018 tax.  What is the legality of all of this?  Does anyone know.  I have contacted Gov Wolf's office twice last year and they still have not contacted me.  
  • Chris | Jun 24, 2020
    I don't have kids, never used the schools, why do I have to pay for people who choose to have kid after kid, you know what make them pay more per kid like a percentage per kid increase and let childless couples pay a flat fee of 1,000 that never goes up or down just stays fixed. having kids is a choice and you choose to have 2,3,4,5 kids you should be paying for them not everyone else
  • Patti | Jun 13, 2020
    DEFUND the failed Coatesville Area School.  Those who stole from the school district (so many times)can pay my taxes this year. Lets all become Amish and not pay taxes.
  • Tracey | Jun 10, 2020

    School tax is extremely high. I dont even have kids and to top it off school was cut short by 1/2 due to oandemic, where is my redund. My property taxes (school) part are ridiculous.thieves that is what dallastown district is they are thieves 

     

     


  • Lota Golding | Jun 08, 2020

    i dont know why residents who dont have children in school are paying for school taxes. There are many retirees forced to move out of state due to the outrageous school taxes when there is absolutely no benefit for them once their children are grown and are no longer going to school. People with no school age kids should not pay any school tax. I am all for increasing sales tax or payroll tax which is fair across the noard.

  • Gerald Levanowitz | Jun 08, 2020

    Monroe county recently finished a "reassessment". Senator Scavello held a telephone town hall last fall and stated unequivocally that "the reassessment was not designed to increase revenue. Some taxes would go up slightly and some would go down slightly". I am a 77 year old retired person and my property tax increased by nearly 50%. I appealed my assessment and missed the appeal hearing because I was in the hospital with heart issues. The Monroe County assessors Office told me "too bad" when I asked for a new hearing date. My new assessment contained several obvious mistakes, one of which was that it had a building on a lot that is empty and not buildable. Senator Scavello was either asleep when the reassessment was completed, the county officials lied to him, or he lied to me maybe all 3...take your pick.

    I have been retired for 16 years now and I consider it a BANNER YEAR if i get a 1 1/2 % increase in retirement income. My youngest daughter graduated 32 years ago. SO WHAT AM I PAYING FOR??? The members of the school board tell the same lies every election year and continue to curry favor with the teachers and their union.

  • KG | May 28, 2020

    Personally i woold be willing to increase the sales tax to 8% if that meant eliminating school tax

  • Peter Calcara | May 20, 2020
    Denise, in response to your question, each of the legislative proposals have their own mechanisms to eliminate or reduce property taxes. Some are quite complicated and occur over a period of time.
  • Denise Spellman | May 18, 2020
    I see no details in any of the proposals on how the property taxes will be reduced.  I just see details on how other taxes will be raised.  How is one supposed  to know which if any of these proposals are worthy of support?
  • Brad | May 09, 2020
    There needs to a total elimination of property taxes not a reduction. When did spending money in the economy to make your property worth more be penalized by raising your taxes. Doesnt add up. Too many people do not get adequate raises in their salaries or retirement to keep up with school districts overspending. 

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